Monthly Archives: June 2013

The Futility Of Prescription Laws For Ephedrine

Each time I read news about another meth seizure I see the confirmation of what we already know: passing laws requiring a doctor’s prescription to buy ephedrine or pseudoephedrine will NEVER stop the supply of this drug (or any other drug) to the USA as long as there is a market and people willing to pay for it.

Come on, who really think that a new law will ever solve the never-ending drug problem?? Do you see the irony? Another law to fight something that is already illegal?? And in case it wouldn’t produce any result and just put burden and cost on honest people, what should we do? Another law I guess? Seriously…

For me the real motives of such RX laws are to stop the local manufacture of meth because it represents a real cost and risk for all drug agents and neighbors of meth cooks. I respect that, everyone has to fight for his/her own interests. I understand the lobbying done by law enforcement to push in favor of prescription laws. But.. I would appreciate that all interests could be measured here, and that’s exactly the job of Politicians, to see the global picture and to make the right decision for the majority of people they represent, taking into consideration all important aspects, costs of course but also social factors in general.

Because one thing is sure: they may pass whatever law they want to restrict the sales of ephedrine, it will never have the slightest impact on meth abuse in the USA. Just have a look at the two following seizures and try to imagine how many pills these quantities of drugs seized can represent 😉

CBP makes third meth seizure in three days

MCSO: 51 pounds of meth seized in recent bust, one of largest in department’s history

Impressive, isn’t it?

Mike Budd.

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Weekend Coupon Code For NutraCave

If you plan to buy something from NutraCave this weekend, even products already on sale, use this coupon code JUNE15 at checkout to take an additional 15% off.

If you add this coupon code to the Deal of the Day you might well save up to 65% off the regular price! Thanks who? 😉 Just click on the picture below:

NutraCave offers 15 percent off this weekend

By the way, being on NutraCave: unfortunately we don’t have enough data about Dendobrium 600 to make our mind and to be able to give you an honest recommendation.

We had asked for feedback from people who have tried this product but in fact we’ve got more answers from international suppliers – China for instance – than usual feedbacks from our trusted members 😉

Well, it probably means that you guys are quite conservative and that you stick to your good ephedrine sources 😉

– What is sure is that next to our recommendation about trusted places where to buy Ephedrine HCL in the USA, many people have followed our advice about the legal aspects and have decided to purchase Ephedrine Plus from WorldClassNutrition:

Get Legal Ephedrine HCL from WorldClassNutrition





Remember that sales of Ephedrine Plus are restricted to the following “blue states” and that a copy of your drivers license with your current address will be required:

Ephedrine Sales Restrictions by State in the USA










By the way we had in our last emails a very good exemple of a perfect match of ephedrine plus gaifenesin:

<< Good morning Mike,
I used to purchase Kaizen Ephedrine from ************** in Canada, however, they are no longer able to ship to the US.  I took one  8mg 3x a day which did not completely suppress my appetite, but took the edge of; that was just fine with me.  I am a marathoner and did not need a great amount of energy boost, but it also helped with my running induced asthma as well.  I found that in addition to aiding with maintaining my race weight, I was able to run longer without the need of my inhaler.
I happened upon your page in my quest to locate US companies that are authorized to ship Ephedrine (…) Ephedrine was initially suggested for my asthma, but I also like the additional benefits.  (…)
In advance, thank you so very much for you attention and assistance.
Best regards,

Marathoner and asthma! No doubt that guaifenesin will add interesting synergistic effects.

– The other option that we discussed several times in private messages was about ephedra alkaloids vs ephedrine HCL. Our answer is that both products have the same effects, one is natural (plants) and the other is the synthetic form made in labs. For a quick refresher, just have a look at our page What Exactly Is Ephedrine?

– Many guys have bought best sellers from EphedraWarehouse and they are happy with the results.

Last word regarding the situation for Canadian sites that are not shipping ephedrine HCL to the USA anymore: we know that Health Canada is requesting a license to import or export and we were hoping that some Canadian sites would use the legal possibility to ship to the US. Well, bad luck 🙁  So far we have seen two more sellers who don’t accept orders to the USA. To be honest we begin to doubt if famous brands such as Kaizen Ephedrine HCL will become available again for deliveries in the USA or even in Canada: some sellers are so scared by the current pressure against ephedrine that they prefer to remove it from their range. Let’s hope that this situation will improve soon. One example: NutraCave is still out of stock of Ephedrine HCL – since months now – and pushing their Synephrine line and Dendobrium 600 meanwhile.

Mike Budd.

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Shocking DEA Position On Meth-Resistant Pseudoephedrine

Do you remember all the buzz last year around this new generation of meth-deterring pseudoephedrine, based on a new formulation that makes it impossible to convert into meth? If not, just have a look here and there.

Best News For Ephedrine So Far

For us these promising new products were the best news for ephedrine since years because it could give full access to ephedrine over the counter and at the same time prevent local meth production: a real win-win for honest patients who don’t need a doctor’s prescription and for drug agents who don’t have to clean dangerous meth labs.

The condition for this win-win is to pass state laws that require a doctor’s prescription with an exemption for pseudoephedrine that cannot be converted into meth. In fact these new products Zephrex-D and Nexafed make only sense if the companies get exemption to the federal Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 (CMEA) that keeps ephedrine behind the counter.

Considering all consequences we were quite sure that officials would take their time before giving a positive answer to the exemption request 😉

Political Tricks

– In March 2012 already, Westport applied for an exemption to CMEA

– In December 2012 the DEA informed them that the exemption was denied.

– In May 2013 six Missouri congressmen urged the DEA to reconsider their position and to allow “unrestricted access” to Zephrex-D, in other words an OTC status, calling the new meth-resistant products “a huge advancement in our fight against this scourge.” It was signed by five Republican Reps. and one Democratic Rep.

– Boom! In a letter dated May 6, James Shroba, the DEA’s acting special agent in charge of the St. Louis office, notified Westport Pharmaceuticals in these terms: claims that Zephrex-D is meth-resistant are wrong since DEA chemists were able to product meth from it.

What about that? Seriously, how could expect such position? And how to explain it?

A US pharmaceutical company is coming with a potential solution to the epidemic meth problem fought by law since decades and what do they get in return? A slap in the face.

Emilie Dolan, director of marketing and media relations for Westport Pharmaceuticals, politely said that the DEA’s message was unexpected and that they have had a good relationship with the agency, working together to try and come up with a solution.

Paul Hemings, vice president at Westport, reacted in a less political way 🙂 saying that the DEA’s letter came as an “absolute shock”.

Our Point of View

This dispute shoes what powerful political stakes are in play here. Remember what we like to say: “politicians care about power, companies care about money and doctors care about people”. With exceptions of course but true most of the time.

– Drug agents want to get rid of cleaning meth labs because it’s dangerous for them. They push prescrition laws for ephedrine (hard lobbying) because they think it’s the best way to achieve their goal. Now the good question: would they stick to their point if it was proven that a prescription law would not decrease meth abuse (it will come from Mexico) and that it would also put a burden on law abiding citizens? In other words, how much do they value their own interest when conflicting with other people’s interest?

– Wesport Pharmaceuticals are confident: recent independent laboratory tests of Zephrex-D demonstrate that meth cannot be produced from Zephrex-D using the famous One Pot method and extraction/conversion manufacturing methods convert less than 0.5% of the pseudoephedrine into meth. It means that instead of 11 tablets of standard pseudoephedrine (30mg) needed to manufacture one dose of meth, you would need almost 1800 pills of Zephrex-D. The cost would be $450 instead of $2.30! Meth cooks are not that stupid 😉  The more advanced techniques achieve a less than 2% production of meth out of Zephrex-D but in that case this small amount of meth produced is still locked in excipients that cannot be smoked, injected or snorted. So what?

Again, what could explain this DEA position? It’s just guess work from our side but for us it has more to do with the lobbying still done by law enforcement for prescription laws for ephedrine, and also with the competitive advantage given to Wesport that probably has pushed other pharmaceutical companies to react.  Somebody in our group even mentioned that maybe the DEA did not like the fact that Wesport was communicating so much on crime protection (see below a screenshot from and also anticipating on the decision about exemption.

DEA denies Zephrex ad slogan as meth-resistant ephedrine

Anyway. Here is the DEA Letter to Westport Pharmaceuticals


Read all these official messages between the lines, with one focus: what is their primary goal here and what is the driving force? And then make your own mind.

Mike Budd.

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